Location of ID interview centres

Harlequin · **Joined:** Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:49:50 +0000 **Posts:** 1248

capnbob wrote:

I've written to the Home Office under the Freedom of Information Act to request the full addresses of all 69 interview centres. I got the holding reply today, and they promise a substantive response by 5 November. I will post it here when it comes.

Please notify me via PM of exactly who you contacted at the home office and I too will replicate just such a request. The more people who put in requestes for such information, the less able they will be to claim that it is is the public interest to withold such information.

John Pickworth · **Posted:** Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:04:29 +0000

Just curious... but does anyone know what these buildings are currently (or were previously) being used for? I also wonder if anyone could provide a description of some of them... their location, as in a high street or light industrial area etc.

Just an idle thought, but suspect there's some mileage in being able to point out to people they'd need to travel to some distant town they don't normally visit, to find some anonymous office at the bottom of IKEA's carpark, or that its a central location with zero chance of finding a parking space etc etc?

Oh... and while I'm asking for wishes to be granted. Is it not time to create a special "Processing Centres" forum - I'm sure these are going to be a hot topic soon and it might be good idea to keep it all in one place?

capnbob · **Posted:** Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:33:05 +0000

Harlequin wrote:

Please notify me via PM of exactly who you contacted at the home office and I too will replicate just such a request. The more people who put in requestes for such information, the less able they will be to claim that it is is the public interest to withold such information.

Better than that, here it is for everyone to see:

If you're emailing a FOIA request about ID Cards it must go to foi.ukpa@gtnet.gov.uk and you must put your full postal address at the bottom of your email.

I wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to request, under the Freedom of Information Act, the full addresses of all 69 new IPS Interview Offices referred to at
http://www.identitycards.gov.uk/Intervi ... /index.asp

If you would reply by email that would be most helpful.

With thanks in advance,

Yours sincerely,

The holding reply came in the post and was from:

Quote:

Identity and Passport Service
An Executive Agency of the Home Office
Headquarters
Globe House 89 Eccleston Square London SW1V1PN
Telephone (0870) 521 0410 Fax (0870) 336 9175
email hqenquiries@ukpa.gsi.gov.uk

It simply acknowledged my request and promised a reply under FOIA by 5 Nov. It was signed illegibly (looks like "HR") with "Signed on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service" underneath. So whoever it was didn't feel the need to reveal their identity!

If you're going to write in, it might be sensible to make a slightly different request. My very broad request, for instance, is vulnerable to fobbing off like "we don't cover Scotland so we can't fulfil your request" or "some office locations haven't been decided so we're not giving you a reply". No point in us all sending in identical requests, as they'll all get the same answer.

Geraint · **Posted:** Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:20:32 +0000

capnbob wrote:

It simply acknowledged my request and promised a reply under FOIA by 5 Nov. It was signed illegibly (looks like "HR") with "Signed on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service" underneath. So whoever it was didn't feel the need to reveal their identity!

Replies from UKPS used to come from a named person, but they started signing on behalf of the IPS instead of with their names as soon as the IPS was formed. Unsurprising really, considering how secretive the Identity Cards Team were; their secrecy was bound to infect any organisation that they became part of.

Guest · **Posted:** Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:06:29 +0000

capnbob wrote:

Harlequin wrote:

Please notify me via PM of exactly who you contacted at the home office and I too will replicate just such a request. The more people who put in requestes for such information, the less able they will be to claim that it is is the public interest to withold such information.

Better than that, here it is for everyone to see:

If you're emailing a FOIA request about ID Cards it must go to foi.ukpa@gtnet.gov.uk and you must put your full postal address at the bottom of your email.

I wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to request, under the Freedom of Information Act, the full addresses of all 69 new IPS Interview Offices referred to at
http://www.identitycards.gov.uk/Intervi ... /index.asp

If you would reply by email that would be most helpful.

With thanks in advance,

Yours sincerely,

The holding reply came in the post and was from:

Quote:

Identity and Passport Service
An Executive Agency of the Home Office
Headquarters
Globe House 89 Eccleston Square London SW1V1PN
Telephone (0870) 521 0410 Fax (0870) 336 9175
email hqenquiries@ukpa.gsi.gov.uk

It simply acknowledged my request and promised a reply under FOIA by 5 Nov. It was signed illegibly (looks like "HR") with "Signed on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service" underneath. So whoever it was didn't feel the need to reveal their identity!

If you're going to write in, it might be sensible to make a slightly different request. My very broad request, for instance, is vulnerable to fobbing off like "we don't cover Scotland so we can't fulfil your request" or "some office locations haven't been decided so we're not giving you a reply". No point in us all sending in identical requests, as they'll all get the same answer.

Harlequin · **Joined:** Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:49:50 +0000 **Posts:** 1248

Anonymous wrote:

capnbob wrote:

Harlequin wrote:

Please notify me via PM of exactly who you contacted at the home office and I too will replicate just such a request. The more people who put in requestes for such information, the less able they will be to claim that it is is the public interest to withold such information.

Better than that, here it is for everyone to see:

If you're emailing a FOIA request about ID Cards it must go to foi.ukpa@gtnet.gov.uk and you must put your full postal address at the bottom of your email.

I wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to request, under the Freedom of Information Act, the full addresses of all 69 new IPS Interview Offices referred to at
http://www.identitycards.gov.uk/Intervi ... /index.asp

If you would reply by email that would be most helpful.

With thanks in advance,

Yours sincerely,

The holding reply came in the post and was from:

Quote:

Identity and Passport Service
An Executive Agency of the Home Office
Headquarters
Globe House 89 Eccleston Square London SW1V1PN
Telephone (0870) 521 0410 Fax (0870) 336 9175
email hqenquiries@ukpa.gsi.gov.uk

It simply acknowledged my request and promised a reply under FOIA by 5 Nov. It was signed illegibly (looks like "HR") with "Signed on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service" underneath. So whoever it was didn't feel the need to reveal their identity!

If you're going to write in, it might be sensible to make a slightly different request. My very broad request, for instance, is vulnerable to fobbing off like "we don't cover Scotland so we can't fulfil your request" or "some office locations haven't been decided so we're not giving you a reply". No point in us all sending in identical requests, as they'll all get the same answer.

As a follow up to this last post, I have today sent off the following email. If any person reading this thread wishes to replicate its format in sending their own email, please feel free to do so:

FOR THE ATTENTION OF THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER

Identity and Passport Service
2nd Floor
Seacole Building
2 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DF

22nd October 2006.

Dear Sir/Madam,

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST: THE LOCATION OF THE 69 IPS INTERVIEW OFFICES AS REFERRED TO ON THE IPS WEBSITE LOCATED AT THE FOLLOWING URL: http://www.identitycards.gov.uk/Intervi ... /index.asp.

This is a request for disclosure of information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

I wish to make use of the act to request the disclosure of information pertaining to the proposed locations of each of the 69 Indentity and Passport Service (hereinafter referrred to as 'IPS') offices that are scheduled to be built in accordance with the government's plans for the introduction of National Identity Cards and the National Identity Register as defined by the Identity Cards Act 2006.

The information I wish to have disclosed, is the specific location of each of the 69 IPS offices that have been scheceduled for construction in order to meet the requirements for registration as defined by the Identity Cards Act. Additionally, I wish to know the names, addresses and contact details of each of the respective councils that have been charged with assessing the planning applications fo these offices.

Additionally, I seek all copies of all emails and any other interdepartmental correspondence relating to the decision making process which lead to the final decision as to the location of these offices. That is, where it is proposed that these offices be located.

My preferred format to receive this information is by electronic means followed by hard copies. Alternatively, I can come and inspect the relevant documents in person and make my own copies if this should prove to be the simplest method of providing the information I seek.

As required by the aforementioned act, please provide an explanation of the purpose, meaning, and context of the information requested.

You are required to supply this information as soon as possible - no longer than twenty days.

I understand that you are required to properly identify any applicant for access to information requested via a disclosure of information request. Please promptly advise me by electronic mail at: ******@********.com or by telephone at: *** **** **** whether any further information is required from me, or whether the information contained in this email is sufficient.

I further understand also that as a public body, you are entitled to levy a charge for the collation and publication of the data requested. Please would you therefore notify me as soon as possible if such a charge is necessary.

If it is not your policy to disclose this information I would urge a re-assessment. The applicable exemptions under the FOIA are qualified by a public interest test. I assert that because the public will be required to register at any one of these IPS offices, they therefore have a direct interest in knowing the location of such offices and the status of their respective planning application.

I would be grateful if you could confirm in writing (ideally via email) that you have received this request.

If you believe you are not the data controller for any of the requested information, please provide the contact details of the organisation/department or person(s) within the Identity and Passport Service you believe to be the controller and explain why you have reached the conclusion as to why you are not the this person.

Yours sincerely,

******* *** **********

Wild Man Of Ipswich · **Posted:** Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:43:25 +0000

Here are a couple more. The Liverpool one looks like it is still running.

LEICESTER

Application Number: 20060869
Site Ref(PPRN): MNY0496
Address: 20-32 WELLINGTON STREET
Description: TEMPORARY CHANGE OF USE FROM OFFICES (CLASS B1) TO INTERVIEW, TRAINING AND ADMINISTRATION CENTRE (NO USE CLASS)
Application Type: Change of use
Date Received: 23-05-2006

LIVERPOOL

Application Number: 06F/2973
Status: New
Address: Part Second Floor, Nations House, Edmund Street, Liverpool, L3
Applicant: Mapeley ABI Provider Ltd
Proposal: To change use of second floor premises to an Interview and Admin Centre for temporary period to 30/09/2011
Agent: King Sturge
Consultation Expiry Date 31-10-2006

Gareth · **Posted:** Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:49:06 +0000

Moderators: It might be helpful to rename this post "Locations of 69 ID Card Interview Centres" (or similar) and make it sticky?

Geraint · **Posted:** Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:57:19 +0000

Good suggestion. Done.

Guest · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:51:13 +0000

phil wrote:

Here's a list of all the towns & cities due an interrogation centre (we've found 18 so far): ... Birmingham ..

How can I contact the people who are active in Birmingham?

Thanks!

Geraint · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:59:25 +0000

For areas with active groups, you can contact them by e-mailing town@no2id.net. For the West Midlands, town can be one of {Birmingham, Leek, Shrewsbury, Walsall}.
http://www.no2id.net/localGroups/index.php#West%20Midlands

Guest · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:25:45 +0000

LINCOLN:

Application Registered 25-10-2006 Date Valid
Consultation Expiry Date 22-11-2006
Target Date 21-12-2006

Application Number 2006/0828/F
Current Status: Appraised
Applicant Name Mapeley ABI Provider Ltd
Agent Name Ms R Holt King Sturge
Applicant Address C/O King Sturge, 30 Warkwick Street, London, W1B 5NH Agent Address 30 Warwick Street, London, W1B 5NH
Location Saracen House Crusader Road Lincoln LN6 7AS Proposal Change of use of part of ground floor from Business (Use Class B1) to Interview and Administration centre (Use Class Sui Generis).
Application Type Full Planning Development Type Min Change of Use
Ward Boultham Application Received 25-10-2006
Date First Advertised Site Notice No
Determination Level Delegated Decision Recommendation
Legal Agreement No Decision
Case Officer Miss M Hindle Appeal Decision

phil · **Joined:** Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:22:16 +0000 **Posts:** 880

We've just published a new page on the ID interrogation centres here: http://www.no2id.net/getInvolved/idCentres.php

More to follow...

Guest, you can send an e-mail to birmingham@no2id.net - our contact there, Nick Drew, should get back to you. If you have any trouble getting in touch, just send me a mail at national.coordinator@no2id.net and I'll see what I can do to help.

iana · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:13:56 +0000

KENDAL ?:

Just located a couple of "suspicious" applications for Kendal by Mapeley:

Application 1:
========
SouthLakeland app SL/2003/1461

Planning Application Number: SL/2003/1461
Site Address: INLAND REVENUE ESKDALE HOUSE, SHAP ROAD KENDAL LA9 6RF
Description: Alterations
Application Status: Dec
Date Valid: 23 May 2003
Decision: Grant with Conditions
Decision Date: 03 July 2003
Decision Level: DELEGATED
Appeal: NO
Case Officer and Phone No.: Helen Signol 01539 797561
Applicant Name & Address: Mapeley Limited
33rd/34th Floor, Euston Tower 286 Euston Road London NW1 3AS
Agent Name & Address: Interserve Building
395 George Road Erdington Birmingham B23 7RZ
Ward:
Parish: KENDAL
Committee:
Listed Building Grade:
Departure from Local Plan: No
Major Development: No
Date Received: 14 May 2003
Statutory Period End Date: 18 July 2003
Recommendation Date: 30 June 2003
Committee Date:
Deferred:
Deferred Date:
Temporary Expiry Date:
Site Notice Date: 06 June 2003
Advert Date:
Constraints:
Classified Road
Consultees:
Name Date Sent Reply Due Reply Received
Amended Plans received 12 June 2003 12 June 2003

Application 2:
========
SouthLakeland app SL/2006/1179

Planning Application Number: SL/2006/1179
Site Address: BRIDGE MILLS, STRAMONGATE KENDAL LA9 4UB
Description:
Application Status: received
Date Valid:
Decision:
Decision Date:
Decision Level:
Appeal: NO
Case Officer and Phone No.: Lilian Hopkins 01539 797562
Applicant Name & Address: MAPELEY ABI PROVIDER LTD
C/O KING STURGE LLP
Agent Name & Address: KING STURGE LLP
30 WARWICK STREET LONDON W1B 5NH
Ward:
Parish: KENDAL
Committee:
Listed Building Grade:
Departure from Local Plan: No
Major Development: No
Date Received: 25 October 2006
Statutory Period End Date: 20 December 2006
Recommendation Date:
Committee Date:
Deferred:
Deferred Date:
Temporary Expiry Date:
Site Notice Date:
Advert Date:
Constraints:
Consultees:
Neighbours:
Amendments:

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capnbob · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:44:59 +0000

phil wrote:

capnbob wrote:

I've written to the Home Office under the Freedom of Information Act to request the full addresses of all 69 interview centres. I got the holding reply today, and they promise a substantive response by 5 November. I will post it here when it comes.

Don't hold your breath. We've got FOIAs oustanding from the early summer with multiple holding replies. The 'promise' means nothing.

Thanks, though - and I hope you hear by the 5th.

I'm pleased to say that Phil was too pessimistic about getting a response at all, although IPS weren't completely forthcoming they have sent me something (and quickly too). Here it is, although I don't think it adds much to what we already know...

Quote:

Identity and Passport Service
An Executive Agency of the Home Office
Headquarters
Globe House 89 Eccleston Square London SW1V1PN
Telephone (0870) 521 0410 Fax (0870) 336 9175
e-mail hqenquiries@ukpa.gsi.gov.uk

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your email of 8 October in which you ask to be provided with the full addresses of all 69 new Identity and Passport Service (IPS) Interview Offices. I am dealing with your request under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

I am able to confirm that to date IPS has taken delivery of 21 offices, the location and the addresses of these offices are attached as an annex.

Unfortunately, the remainder of the information that falls within the terms of your request is exempt from the right of access on the grounds of section 43 – the commercial interests- of the Act.

Public Interest Test

In applying the test exemption IPS has had to balance the public interest in disclosing this information against the public interest of witholding it.

On the one hand there is public interest in disclosure as knowledge about the way the government works and the information on which it has based its decisions increases the public contribution to the policy making process, which would thereby become more effective and broadly based.

On the other hand, IPS is currently engaged in a procurement exercise with suppliers and it is considered that the remaining 48 offices are subject to commercial confidentiality and negotiation. The details of the 48 remaining offices will be made public when they have been formally acquired by IPS.

I realise that you may be disappointed with this response. However please be assured that we have considered the application of exemptions with great care, and that IPS always seeks to disclose as much information as it is able to.

If you have any queries about the handling of your information request in the meantime then please contact us, quoting the reference number above.

If you are unhappy with the service that you have received in relation to your request and wish to make a complaint or request a review of our decision, you should write to:

Information Polity Team
Information and Record Management Service
Home Office
4th Floor, Seacole Building
The Home Office
2, Marsham Street,
London, SW1P 4DF.

Quoting reference: [ref]

The internal review will be conducted by someone other than the person who took the initial decision. If following the internal review you remain dissatisfied with the treatment of your request then you may refer your complaint to:

The Information Commissioner
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire SK9 5AF

Generally, the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have exhausted the complaints procedure provided by the Home Office on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service.

Yours faithfully,

Signed on behalf of the Identity and Passport Service

ANNEX A
Proposed interview office locations:
[the 69 towns and cities we already know about]

Office Address

1
BELFAST
1st floor, Norwood House, 96-102 Great Victoria Street, Belfast BT2 7BE

2
GLASGOW
Part GF, Blythswood House, 200 West Regent Street, Glasgow G2 4DQ

3
PLYMOUTH
Pt 3rd floor, Mayflower House, Armada Way, Plymouth PL1 1LD

4
NEWCASTLE
Part 1st floor, No. 2 Cathedral Square, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 1EE

5
LEICESTER
3rd floor, Wellington House, Wellington Street, Leicester LE1 6HL

6
NEWPORT
15th floor, Chartist Tower, Upper Dock Street, Newport NP20 1DW

7
PETERBOROUGH
First Floor West, Midgate House, Westgate City Road, Peterborough PE1 1TN

8
LEEDS
Part Ground Floor, 33 Park Place, Leeds LS1 2RY

9
CHELMSFORD
First Floor, Rosebury House, 41 Springfield Road, Chelmsford CM2 6JJ

10
LIVERPOOL
2nd Floor, Nations House, Edmund Street, Liverpool L3 9NY

11
CRAWLEY
2nd Floor, Belgrave House, Crawley RH10 1HU

12
EDINBURGH
1st floor, Apex 3, 95 Haymarket Terrace, Edinburgh, EH12 5HD

13
SWANSEA
Axis Court, Riverside Business Park, Swansea, SA7 0AJ

14
BIRMINGHAM
6th floor, Kensington House, Suffolk Street, Queensway, Birmingham B1 1LN

15
MANCHESTER
Westminster House, Portland Street, Manchester M60 1HY

16
SHEFFIELD
Ground Floor, Milton House Charter Row, Sheffield S1 3FZ

17
WREXHAM
First Floor, Kingsway House, Ellice Way, Wrexham LL13 7YT

18
LUTON
Part 4th Floor, A W House, Stuart Street, Luton, LU1 2SW

19
STOKE-ON-TRENT
Riverside II Office Park, Campbell Road, ST4 4RJ

20
BRISTOL
5th Floor, Monarch House, Queen Charlotte Street, BS1 4EX

21
MIDDLESBROUGH
Training and Enterprise House, 2 Queens Square, Middlesbrough TS2 1AA

Gareth · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:14:02 +0000

capnbob wrote:

Here it is, although I don't think it adds much to what we already know...
4
NEWCASTLE
Part 1st floor, No. 2 Cathedral Square, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 1EE

Thanks, I was struggling to find the location for Newcastle. This is upstairs from a Job Centre+.

I'll try to confirm details about the planning application.

duncancumming · **Joined:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:30:53 +0000 **Posts:** 7

Someone already posted the details, but here's the link to same on the local council's site:
J6M8RECHZ9000

they also seem to have made an application for some new air conditioning on the office, maybe they expect it to get a bit hot in there (in Oban?):
J70XBBCH03000

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duncancumming · **Joined:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:30:53 +0000 **Posts:** 7

Nearly didn't spot this, but recognised the name Matthew Milroy from the Oban application.
[PDF]: http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/ACCI/nms ... 01&sID=856

Application Number: BA6/1849 Type: Building Warrant
Registered Date: 14/09/2006 Case Officer: Jim Ritchie
Area Code: Building Standards South East Telephone: 01224 522268
Estimated Cost: £ 233,158.33 Fee Received: £ 1,580.00
Applicant: Matthew Milroy Agent: Shirley Carter
Location: Regent Centre, Regent Road, Aberdeen, AB11 5NS
Proposal: Internal Fit-out of offices

duncancumming · **Joined:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:30:53 +0000 **Posts:** 7

http://www.blackburn.gov.uk/server.php? ... rmat=print

Application no 10/06/1042

Applicant Mapeley Abl Provider Ltd
Agent King Sturge LLP F.A.O. Rebecca Holt 30 Warwick Street London W1B 5NH

Application type and description of proposed development Full Planning Application for Use as an Interview/Administration Centre for the Identity and Passport Service for a temporary period up to 30 September 2011
Site location Part ground floor (Grid ref: 368,357.00.428,353.00 ) St Johns Court Ainsworth Street Blackburn BB1 6AP

Registered date 11/10/2006 Received Date 25/09/2006 Case officer Peter Gillibrand Ward Shear Brow

and here's their actual planning application, architect's diagrams, etc:
http://www.blackburn.gov.uk/upload/pdf/10_06_1042.pdf

some interesting details on those, Biometric Room, Panic Room

duncancumming · **Joined:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:30:53 +0000 **Posts:** 7

http://www.newport.gov.uk/stellent/grou ... 070007.pdf

App No: 06/0787 Ward: Stow Hill
ApplicationSite: FIFTEENTH FLOOR CHARTIST TOWER UPPER DOCK STREET NEWPORT NP20 1DW
Proposal:CHANGE OF USE TO AN INTERVIEW, TRAINING AND ADMINISTRATIVE CENTRE (SUI
GENERIS) FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD UP TO 30TH SEPTEMBER 2011
Applicant:MAPELEY ABI PROVIDER LTD
Agent:KING STURGE 7 STRATFORD PLACE LONDON W1C 1ST
App Type:FULL
Del/Com:DELEGATED
Grid Ref:331133, 188050
Date Registered:19/06/2006
Expiry Date: 14/08/2006
Case Officer:JACQUIE KING Tel: 01633 232510

Lynda · **Posted:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:52:28 +0000

Quote:

some interesting details on those, Biometric Room, Panic Room

Panic room?

3 interview positions and one Panic room?

Is the panic expected beofre or after the visit to the Biometric room?

duncancumming · **Joined:** Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:30:53 +0000 **Posts:** 7

http://www.stirling.gov.uk/ps_06_september_20.pdf

S/06/00797/DET
18 September
2006
Raploch
278245 694688
Change of use to office for passport agency at 2 Scotia
House, Castle Business Park, Raploch, Stirling FK9 4TZ for
Mapeley Estates Limited per Atisreal Limited 20 Charlotte Square
Edinburgh EH2 4DF
Officer: Iain Jeffrey, Telephone: 442987
Status Constraints: None mapped
Consultations Issued: No consultations sent or requested.

phil · **Joined:** Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:22:16 +0000 **Posts:** 880

capnbob wrote:

I'm pleased to say that Phil was too pessimistic about getting a response at all, although IPS weren't completely forthcoming they have sent me something (and quickly too). Here it is, although I don't think it adds much to what we already know...

Well, I stand corrected :wink:

This is actually very useful information, as it confirms that only 21 of the centres have been identified as yet. I'm not sure that "IPS has taken delivery of 21 offices" is strictly accurate, if the planning appeals haven't been heard yet - it would be nice to prove them wrong!

Great job, capnbob.

chippenham-no2id · **Posted:** Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:11:22 +0000

Lynda wrote:

Is the panic expected before or after the visit to the Biometric room?

Actually, I think we have this the wrong way round. Take a closer look at the layout.

http://www.egnug.org/ID-Cards/panic.png

The panic room is directly accessable to the reception desk and via a "Flap" to the security guard. Since when is a customer accessable area only accessable through a door behind the reception desk. This is not panic stricken customers, for the use of. This is for the staff.

Maybe this would be a good question to raise through our non-Labour MPs.

Why does the UKIPS see fit to provide a panic room for staff in their design for the new Identity Card Interrogation Centres?

Andy M

Moon_watcher · **Joined:** Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:47:29 +0000 **Posts:** 109

chippenham-no2id wrote:

Lynda wrote:

Is the panic expected before or after the visit to the Biometric room?

Why does the UKIPS see fit to provide a panic room for staff in their design for the new Identity Card Interrogation Centres?

Andy M

Maybe they think their interrogation centres might be the focual point of some kind of civil unrest and direct action???

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