NO2ID

Maybe those science fiction writers had it right all along. Remember those portraits of totally inhuman humans going around in spaceships like they were in a kind of trance? I suppose it's the logical conclusion to a situation where technology has become so advanced that it controls every aspect of everyone’s behaviour, so they are walking robots.

We are not far from this stage now if you consider the average call centre employee or council 'helpdesk' adviser. If you are very knowledgeable on the psychology of it there are ways to snap them out of it and to engage brain. however normal routine operation means they are on autopilot, a state that is encouraged and even demanded by the faceless employer.

Phil K Dick had it right with that famous line from the Tyrell Corporation ‘more human than human’. It's quite philosophical if you think about it.

Contact the other parents at the school. Try and wotk as a whole group and demand that the information is removed. My niece started at a new school lattley and although they do not have fingerprints and phot ID, they did say they (the school) must ask parents for consent before taking any photos to comply with the Data Protection Act 1998 and that the parents have the right to prevent it.

It would prob be best if someone could do a list o all schools that do this sort of thing, think of it as a name and shame thing.

My my. It really annoys me when someone uses the ‘what you said was really Orwellian blah’ in a derisive way. It intimates that the person saying this is superior in that they are above the naïve conspiracy theorists and are the only one who can see clearly, etc. Social conditioning has nothing whatsoever to do with Orwell. It is something that lies tacitly dormant in most people until they are awoken to its proficiency. Every time you read a sensationalist headline in a tabloid someone or something is attempting to mould your perception of an event. Acceptance of intrusive technology through familiarity, particularly in impressionable children, is a foreseeable outcome. There is nothing Orwellian about it. Grr.

If you look to the cumulative efforts of Government and the way they try to mould public perception through mistruth – particularly in embracing technology which the Government were themselves lobbied to accept – it does not take a genius to see how public acceptance is being driven. Chips in babies, fingerprinting children; all so innocuous on their own when the benefits are touted. Put them together and you really have to be something of a non-questioning automaton not to see the potential for human rights abuse. It is encircling us from all sides and will lead to some eerie technology-people-state symbiosis that we cannot function without. There is nothing science fiction about being wrongly flagged as a trouble maker or being denied public services on account of these things. I concede it may be harder to grasp the intangible dehumanising effect this recognition technology will have on your children, but how on earth can anyone feel on some collective moral scale that branding children like property is the mark of a civilised society?

We do not belong to the Government/big business (which runs our country again?), they are supposed to belong to us. Grr.

Hi all, havent been able to get an apointment yet... now its only a 2 weeks and its half term... not giving up on it though..

My daughter has outright refused to use it..!!! and is being marked in manually, but the register is still being taken, and will be for the forseeable future..?? wtf..??

Also and my other daughter did not even have here print taken... (twins seems to have messed them up)

So on the whole we are causing quite a lot of hassle..

With the ID/NIR looking to be put on hold, is this a method of having the data ready for when the scheme kicks back in..?? Convinient..?? and the theme seems to be on the most part underhanded no notification only very vague mentions in newsletters.. why..??

More soon...

As i said in another post somewhere on this forum.

The governemnt have used the same tactics i believe to build motorways, across the country ...... they tell the little villages that a bypass is what they need to allieviate the volume of traffic going through the village.

Then when all the little villages have a bypass they are joined together, they then widen them a little bit and call them a motorway. Isn't it something to do with a back door?

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Also, do not give teachers too much credit with new technology, I have seen one example of a teachers work ............

The days work for the class written on a smart board in black marker, I had to go back to the school and raise the board because they couln't reach the bottom of it ??????? Imagine the picture of this white board with marker on it at the cost of £300 and only 1 week old.

(A smart board for those that do not know is a white board that plugs into the computer and projects the screens display back to itself by using a projector. You can write on the board using an electronic pen that is as useful as chalk and it does a hundred things besides).

These boards should not be introduced to markers as it ruins them.

I laughed out loud when I read that, as it is a great example of a useless form of biometric identification.

All of the laptops that I have seen that contained fingerprint recognition required the input of a "safety net" password. This password is required in case the fingerprint scanner breaks - you enter the password.

I wonder how many of these passwords are set to "1234"...

Anyway, back to mailing my LEA and MP to try and get some details about if/how this thing is deployed locally...