NO2ID

From the Guardian...




Does this mean that if we are living abroad then we will not be entered onto the National ID register?

yes

I live abroad and frankly I do not see how people like me will be allowed to slip through the net. You have to give up the same data anyway, the way I see it. So whether you receive the stupid piece of plastic is neither here nor there, you are still on this Stasi register.

I don't know what it will be like, I only know I will NOT give my data, DNA or anything else. If that means letting my passport run out and become "stateless" so be it, there can be NO compromise with this horrible Blair person and his band of monkeys.

You will end up on the NIR if you take a Biometric Passort but may not necessarily have an id card as the government has claimed this is for UK residents only.

Tony Blair requested from the EU Court that Britain was included in the creation of the European identity database (SISII). Prior to this British subjects were immune from inclusion.

The ID Card Bill makes allowances for the NIR to be populated with information from other databases. Information from SISII can be used to build your NIR profile. UKPA databases are likely to be used to populate the NIR anyway as one of the key arguements is to prevent illegal immigration.

Despite growing awareness of the ID card there is still significant ingorance of the threat of the biometric passport. Political attitutudes towards the biometric passport are schizophrenic. The Libdems and Tories, whilst opposing the id card have supported the biometric passport. They don't want a UK biometric ID system, but are quite happy for an EU one.

Also be aware that the cost for an ex-patriot often exceeds that of a UK resident. You and your family need to attend an identity interview at a designated consular office or embassy, you must bear the cost for this; for example, ex-patriots in the SW of France will have to travel to Bordeaux or Paris.

Adam Pegley
http://www.idcardandyou.co.uk

I think you may be wrong there. I am a resident of Southern Spain and I have just had my passport renewed by post from the British Consulate in Madrid. No personal interview was required.

Not yet. Personal interviews are currently not required for new applicants even in the UK. The more demanding forms and "PIPS" credit agency check is being rolled out first, and not for renewals so far.

There's an administrative motivation for doing new applicants first. When renewals are screened the same way, there is some likelihood of conflict between existing data and the new method of collection. Hence a means of resolution would be necessary, possibly some embarrassing publicity about the inconveniences, certainly some expense. Starting 'clean' means the data collection can be deemed flawless and the system is embedded before it has an opportunity to produce public resentment and/or turn out to be rubbish.

I'll have to go through this rigmarole sooner or later, at the British consulate in Hong Kong.

I'll make it very clear to the officer how disgusted I am that I need to be 'interviewed' to be approved to remain a British citizen, despite the fact that I was born there.

What do you think will happen if I stick to my guns and refuse to provide any information over and above what one normally provides on a passport application? Will I be stripped of my citizenship?