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 Post subject: Opting out of ContactPoint
PostPosted: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:30:09 +0000 
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I email Bracknell Forest Borough Council.

This is the reply:
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Neil,

Thank you for sending through your request. As you may or may not be aware, the implementation of ContactPoint is still being finalised and a number of local authorities are currently putting in place processes to handle 'Shielding Requests' such as this one.

Before we take any further action, can I ask you to consider the following criteria from the ContactPoint statutory guidance laid down by Section 12 of the Children Act 2004.

4.38 It is vital that shielding (and thereby disclosing the whereabouts of a child or young person) is only applied where there are strong reasons, for example, where a practitioner has reason to believe that not doing so is likely to:
● place a child at increased risk of significant harm;
● put a child’s placement at risk (in the case of adoption);
● place an adult at risk of significant harm, and/or
● prejudice the prevention or detection of a serious crime.

4.39 Such cases could arise for example where:
● a child/young person is adopted where there is little or no contact with birth parent(s) or wider family members;
● a child/young person and/or their parent/carer, are fleeing abuse or domestic violence; and/or
● a child/young person and/or their parent/carer or family member are subject to police protection.

If you still feel that you request meets this criteria then we will arrange an appointment for you to come to our offices to provide proof of ID and evidence of your reason to shield.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank you

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PostPosted: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:51:03 +0000 
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4.38 It is vital that shielding (and thereby disclosing the whereabouts of a child or young person)

Am I reading this wrong or is the logic here screwy?

Shielding surely *prevents* disclosing the whereabouts?


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PostPosted: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:20:31 +0000 
And here's yet another instance of having to prove who we are with suitable ID.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:10:53 +0000 
They forgot to add

● a child/young person has a parent who is a politician or a celebrity...


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PostPosted: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:59:58 +0000 
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Please note that this is not opting-out - the original post is misleadingly titled. All it does (in theory) is reduce the size of the set of officials who have access to certain personal details stored on ContactPoint.

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PostPosted: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:59:52 +0000 
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Guy Herbert wrote:
Please note that this is not opting-out - the original post is misleadingly titled. All it does (in theory) is reduce the size of the set of officials who have access to certain personal details stored on ContactPoint.

Here's the relevant section from the ContactPoint Shielding fact sheet:
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Access to shielded records

In order to ensure that ContactPoint does not inadvertently confirm or indicate the whereabouts of a child or young person with a shielded record, a practitioner will only be able to find a child record by inputting information that is visible on a shielded record. No records will be returned if a search is made using information from any non-visible field.

Relevant people in local authority ContactPoint Management Teams will have access rights to view hidden information on shielded records so they can, where there are child protection concerns, ‘broker’ contact between users working with the same child/young person.

Users with child protection responsibilities such as police officers or social workers may be granted an access right that enables them to override the shield and gain access to the hidden information on a shielded record. An attempt to override the shield will prompt a message reminding the user that accessing the shielded record will trigger an immediate investigation. Where users choose to proceed, they will only be able view the hidden information until they log out of the record. If they require access to the same information again, they will have to repeat the process. If another user searches for the child record, it would still appear shielded to them.

Whole factsheet available from various local authorities, such as: http://www.barnsley.gov.uk/bguk/Health_ ... ntactPoint


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PostPosted: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:32:22 +0000 
Andrew Watson wrote:



So who are these "relevant" people.

How many of them are there?
What overall percentage of operatives will be classed as "relevant" people to lift the shielding?

2%, 50%?

Anyone have any ideas on the projected figures?


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PostPosted: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:10:03 +0000 
In most authorities it will be the ContactPoint Manager only who will make stringent checks to ascertain whether the need for disclosure is valid. In rare cases some highly specialised workers such as Emergency Duty Social Workers, Police domestic violence units can request an Emergency Shield Override but this will be subject to subsequent audit.


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PostPosted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:17:08 +0000 
sparky2 wrote:
In most authorities it will be the ContactPoint Manager only who will make stringent checks to ascertain whether the need for disclosure is valid. In rare cases some highly specialised workers such as Emergency Duty Social Workers, Police domestic violence units can request an Emergency Shield Override but this will be subject to subsequent audit.


If it's up to the same standards as child protection or CAFCASS across the country, then heaven help us.

CAFCASS has failed every OFSTED inspection to date. They left confidential files unlocked in public waiting rooms. **Whole new meaning to Freedom of Information that**

I can't imagine that Contact point will be "stringent".
It'll be used and abused and left open to the public - the same as OFSTED found about the paper files.


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PostPosted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:21:50 +0000 
**Evidence about OFSTED inspections**

One report contained a scribbled note saying Cafcass had telephoned a mother after her son suffered a fractured skull, with no further information on the injury.

Confidential files were routinely kept in unlocked cupboards and there was little supervision, leading to an atmosphere of “complacency and lack of focus”. When Ofsted inspectors challenged Cafcass officers about their casual approach, the officers appeared not to be alarmed or surprised, and suggested that their methods were common practice across all regions.


Christine Gilbert, the head of Ofsted, said it had made ten recommendations and would be closely monitoring what action the region would take.

“Though some of the services provided by the Cafcass East Midlands were adequate, Ofsted has found many serious failures in its core role of safeguarding and promoting the welfare of children, young people and families,” she said.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article3372109.ece


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 Post subject: Re: Opting out of ContactPoint
PostPosted: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:28:55 +0000 
Yes, I too tried to opt out of Contact Point, I have a full page email telling me all the reasons why I need to have my children on a Universal Registra however I have never signed the rights of my child over to anyone else, have I? Do we live in a police state? Silly question! Well I am still awaiting a response from my initial question, Can I opt out of Contact Point? It would appear that they are sheilding my question? If you have any info on right I do have please comment.
Luna


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