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 Post subject: Register: UK.gov urged to slash DNA retention plan
PostPosted: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:39:53 +0000 
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Article => Reg: UK.gov urged to slash DNA retention plan
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8th March 2010 15:19 GMT

Government plans designed to bring the National DNA Database in line with human rights legislation have been criticised today by an influential group of MPs as not going far enough.

The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee said that DNA profiles from those not convicted of a crime should only be retained for three years.

After defeat at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg over a year ago, the government proposed police should store innocent people's DNA data for six years. In December the UK's human rights watchdog warned the planned period could still be illegal.


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 Post subject: Re: Register: UK.gov urged to slash DNA retention plan
PostPosted: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:53:18 +0000 
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I dug up my old (mid-2007) DNA Birthday Paradox calculations following a remark in the article comments, and to summarise figures produced using formulas from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_paradox

With 'one in a billion', a database of
15174 profiles would give you a 99.999% chance of finding two profiles in it that coincidentally match
225070 profiles would give you a 99.999999999% chance of finding two profiles in it that coincidentally match
though this is not the same as trying to find a match given a known profile to match against.

With an initial profile and a database of 50 million to search against, there is a 5% probability that the match found is wrong. Assumes : totally random with even distribution.

Take those up to the national DNA database of 5 million profiles, and on the possibly big assumption that the formulas scale up, you are pretty much guaranteed that there are going to be a whole stack of coincidental matches. We are told that there is an estimated rate of around 13% "replicates" which are apparently profiles derived from multiple samples given by the same people but under different names after being arrested more than once.

The question arises as to how many of these "replicates" are in fact coincidental matches from different people whose profiles just happen to fit in the same numerical 'box'. Taking something very complicated and reducing it down to a limited set of numbers is always going to have the possibility of 'collisions', as with hashing functions.

A closer inspection and taking additional information into account would normally sort out any confusion, though this hasn't always been done properly in the past.

I don't suppose anyone fancies doing the numbers themselves to corroborate or refute my figures...? Just because nobody has yet argued with these doesn't guarantee correctness...


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