NO2ID

I'm not that bothered about ID cards but I will refuse to accept one that requires my fingerprints being taken. Asides from the stigma of knowing that fingerprints are taken for suspected criminals, my main worry is misuse by the government.

I checked a few websites and accuracy of 98% is often quoted as how precise fingerprint matching can be. This appears to depend on the number of points taken (markers in the print). My worry is there's little to stop the police matching fingerprints taken at crime scenes with the national ID fingerprint database. Just how accurate it is could mean that the police can identify a crime not to a single person but a group of people with a 'close' match. I don't want to have my name in the police national database (PNC I believe) as a possible suspect for a murder or rape. The PNC is already used to build up a picture of all of us (domestic squabbles, neighbour complaints, etc) and I don't want them going any further.

Perhaps I'm being paranoid but I don't trust this government.

M.

I just can't understand this statement at all????

I am bothered by anything where I am expected to fork out cash, potentially over and over again throughout my lifetime, and my families life times. Especially when the product is forced on me and doesn't work!

I wonder if the Jewish were bothered when they had ID forced on them, just before Hitler made use of it.

Movilla

This is just the sort of reason why you should be bothered about ID cards.

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Justin.

Hi Movilla

I could say that I'm not that bothered about an ID card; however I've a fundamental objection to one that links me to an address; all previous addresses, my NHS, passport and driver numbers and ALSO allows an 'audit trail' record of my daily activities to be built up on a central database, potentially to be accessed by thousands of bureacrats and even foreign governments.

So I guess I'm against ID cards then!

As Justin said, Welcome to the club!

Martin,

To an extent a lot of your activity is already monitored but it's built up in separate databases. The ID card will make life easier for the police and the government. The main issue is creeping control of the people. Remember that you're a subject and not a citizen. It's that ethos that drives the government. Labour may have once been socialist but it is now the Queen's government. Your rights are limited and without a constitution an all powerful government can quash civil rights that most countries' citizens would take for granted.

The "subject" thing is what the Labour govt is using to speed this through, the ECHR entitles us to a private life which would not happen under this scheme.

In fact companies like Experian are already in breach of the ECHR, does the govt do anything about it?

Nyet!

I have been trying to find if there are any ways of limiting Experian and Equifax's activities, they have a huge control over our daily lives and are in receipt of information THAT I do not consent to them having, they only became really powerful under Bliar and I am extremely suspicious of their motives and their ability to protect peoples information.

Some of the information they pick up is unbelievable and the conclusions draw require, to say the least, requiring of a giant leap of faith.

For instance, my credit records included the fact that my mother; who I lived with years and several addresses ago, had gone two months into arrears on the mortgage. She doesn't have the same surname as me so this can only have been based on our shared address.

I also had a 'financial association' listed with a named individual to whom I had trasferred funds from my bank account. My only 'association' with this person was that I had bought a second hand car from them.

I too would have to question both their methods and motives.

Sorry meant to say 'the conclusions they draw require a leap of faith' !!