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Post subject: Express: TERROR THREATS 'GROWING' - SMITH Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:01:26 +0000 |
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Quote: Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has warned that the threat of terror attacks in public places, including from radioactive dirty bombs, was "growing". Quote: She said plans for so-called "e-borders" using biometric data were making progress with 100,000 visitors fingerprinted last month alone. But she claimed allowing biometric information to be compiled would serve to protect people from the kind of risks raised by the loss of the two discs of personal data from the HMRC rather.
When in trouble talk about "dangers and threats" to all and sundry and hey presto the magic solution - e-borders and biometrics.
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/26874
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Justin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:12:16 +0000 |
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'scuse me while I vomit.
Honestly, the stupidity of these people, do they really think we are taken in by all this crap about 'dirty bombs'? Hasn't it been noted somewhere that a suitcase full of second hand radioactive knickers poses no greater cancer risk than sitting in a traffic jam for three weeks?
Justin.
_________________ I am his highness' dog at Kew;
Pray tell me, sir, whose dog are you? Pope.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:12:50 +0000 |
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Joined: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:38 +0000 Posts: 1761 Location: Southern Sweden
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This is not a "news" item, it's just a distracting tactic so that the attention of the press will be taken away from nasty things like the Northern Rock fiasco, HMRC's lost discs and the Labour Party funding scandal.
Stu
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Tenchy
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:39:43 +0000 |
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Joined: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:58 +0000 Posts: 417 Location: Middlesbrough, UK
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Justin wrote: 'scuse me while I vomit.
..., do they really think we are taken in by all this crap about 'dirty bombs'? ...
Justin.
Unfortunately many people are taken in by this sort of utter sh**te.
"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. " Adolf Hitler
"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise. " Adolf Hitler
"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed. " Adolf Hitler
More from Adolf here:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... itler.html
Last edited by Tenchy on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:32 +0000, edited 1 time in total.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:44:05 +0000 |
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Yes. I heard a story on the BBC yesterday about a seizure of radioactive material "sufficiently enriched to make a dirty bomb". Remind me again how a dirty bomb works.
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6079Smith.W
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:51:26 +0000 |
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 Mummy help me! There's a big scary monster under my bed!
I prefer to take Ms Smith's advice with an extremely large pinch of Sodium Chloride.
_________________ 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:47:04 +0000 |
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Gosh! Surely they can't be trying to distract us from the mire Labour are currently flopping around in.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:56:14 +0000 |
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Yes.
_________________ 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:00:18 +0000 |
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Anonymous wrote: Gosh! Surely they can't be trying to distract us from the mire Labour are currently flopping around in. Of course but use as all good bowlers will tell you.. reverse spin. This is the letter I am sending out to papers at present; Quote: Sir, Jacqui Smith has stated that “allowing biometric information to be compiled would serve to protect people from the kind of risks raised by the loss of the two discs of personal data from the HMRC” Is she really asking the populace of the UK to submit to the intrusive extraction of fingerprints, iris scans and other pieces of personal information which would then be placed on a national database? Never mind the recent breaches of data security, the sheer arrogance of this government in insisting that we should give up more information that would render us vulnerable, not only to their incompetence, but to computer savvy criminals (such as an 18 year old whizz-kid) beggars belief. They propose that the ID card would hold 53 pieces of personal information and what is more they expect us to pay for it. This “plastic poll tax” must surely be the last nail in the coffin of this bankrupt administration. I hope others join me by saying that they too will never have an ID card, come bailiff or prison.
Use their statements against them.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:03:57 +0000 |
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There seems to be a strong correlation between 'terror threats' and our unwillingness to put up with Labour BS.
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Baron von Lotsov.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:16:41 +0000 |
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Tenchy wrote: Justin wrote: 'scuse me while I vomit.
..., do they really think we are taken in by all this crap about 'dirty bombs'? ...
Justin. Unfortunately many people are taken in by this sort of utter sh**te. "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. " Adolf Hitler "By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise. " Adolf Hitler "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed. " Adolf Hitler More from Adolf here: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... itler.htmlWhile we are on the subject, try Bertrand Russell. Quote: "the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology.... Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called 'education.' Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema, and the radio play an increasing part.... It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment."
"The subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship.... The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray."
"Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen."
_________________ "It's easy to win forgiveness for being wrong; being right is what gets you into real trouble."
Bjarne Stroustrup
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